  Donnie ( 1: 00: 06 AM)  but the real question is. which way does the current flow?
 Scott S.  ( 1: 00: 16 AM)  downstream Donnie (
1: 00: 19 AM)  lol Donnie ( 1: 00:
24 AM)  i mean symbolic Scott S.  ( 1: 00: 24 AM)
 the flow of time Scott S.  ( 1: 00: 29 AM)  moves forward Scott S.
 ( 1: 00: 31 AM)  downstream Donnie ( 1:
00: 35 AM)  thats not symbolic!  Donnie ( 1: 00:
40 AM)  what i mean is Donnie ( 1: 01: 22 AM)  are we eternally damned to be a puzzle broken into peices by the river,
 or does the current flow towards hope and possibility?  Scott S.  ( 1: 01: 35 AM)
 if i had that answer.  Donnie ( 1: 01: 57 AM)  then you would save me a lot of time Scott S.
 ( 1: 02: 02 AM)  yes Scott S.  (
1: 02: 27 AM)  im gonna save that question you just asked me Scott S.  ( 1:
02: 29 AM)  i like it Donnie ( 1: 02: 42 AM)
 whats the question?  Scott S.  ( 1: 03: 17 AM)
 are we eternally damned to be a puzzle broken into peices by the river,  or does the current flow towards hope and possibility?  Donnie ( 1: 03: 46 AM)
 ah Donnie ( 1: 03: 52 AM)  i've always wondered that Scott S.  (
1: 03: 55 AM)  yeah Donnie ( 1: 04:
06 AM)  entropy,  or extropy Scott S.  ( 1: 04:
13 AM)  right Donnie ( 1: 04: 14 AM)  it's not a matter of choice,
 is it Scott S.  ( 1: 04: 22 AM)  i dont think so Donnie (
1: 04: 47 AM)  so has it already been determined,  or will we beasts of humans decide our own fate subconciously Scott S.  (
1: 05: 05 AM)  god,  i've been thinking about this a lot lately Scott S.  (
1: 05: 12 AM)  i keep going back and forth Donnie ( 1: 05:
16 AM)  join the club.  Donnie ( 1: 05: 32 AM)
 how do we not have a philosophy club in our school Donnie ( 1: 05: 42 AM)  we have so many people that are interested in it Scott S.  (
1: 05: 43 AM)  i dont know,  but if we did Donnie ( 1:
05: 51 AM)  always a but.  Scott S.  ( 1:
06: 01 AM)  you're the only one i like talking about it with Donnie ( 1: 06: 18 AM)
 yea. i dont want to hear Rami tell me why ecofeminism will take over the earth Scott S.  ( 1: 06: 25 AM)
 haha Donnie ( 1: 06: 46 AM)  so,  which side do you lean to at this moment.
 Donnie ( 1: 06: 59 AM)  destruction or opportunity. its your call Scott S.
 ( 1: 07: 07 AM)  oh geese Scott S.  (
1: 07: 38 AM)  dont you already know my answer though?  Donnie ( 1:
07: 47 AM)  Not if you are going back and forth Scott S.  ( 1: 08:
00 AM)  i see fire Scott S.  ( 1: 08: 03 AM)
 destruction Scott S.  ( 1: 08: 07 AM)  death Scott S.
 ( 1: 08: 11 AM)  no more light Scott S.  (
1: 08: 13 AM)  it's lost Scott S.  ( 1:
08: 21 AM)  why should I die?  Donnie ( 1: 08:
21 AM)  halocaust Donnie ( 1: 08: 30 AM)  burning Scott S.
 ( 1: 08: 31 AM)  see the saga through?  Donnie (
1: 08: 42 AM)  perhaps there is yet something that can be accomplished Donnie ( 1: 08:
45 AM)  a purpose of sorts Scott S.  ( 1: 09: 16 AM)
 i only see one way two combat the flames of vengence though Scott S.  ( 1: 09: 35 AM)  a total refusal of our current system Donnie (
1: 09: 56 AM)  you propose to fight the flames of vengence with your own holocaust Scott S.  ( 1:
09: 56 AM)  which would mean a refusal of school and all structure what so ever Scott S.  ( 1: 10:
04 AM)  i know Scott S.  ( 1: 10: 08 AM)
 i dont make sense Donnie ( 1: 10: 09 AM)  fire will never defeat fire Scott S.  (
1: 10: 19 AM)  only fuel a larger one yes Donnie ( 1: 10:
37 AM)  aye,  a tyrant amoung destructive times Scott S.  ( 1: 10:
37 AM)  so then let us remove ourselves from the fire!  Donnie ( 1: 10: 44 AM)
 into space!  awwwwaaayyy!  Donnie ( 1: 10: 46 AM)
 lol Scott S.  ( 1: 10: 48 AM)  ha Donnie (
1: 10: 54 AM)  no no no.  Donnie ( 1:
11: 03 AM)  it is our duty to extinguish this fire Scott S.  ( 1: 11:
12 AM)  yes it is Donnie ( 1: 11: 20 AM)  a fire that,
 make a note,  is fueled by unjust morals and lost souls Scott S.  ( 1: 11: 21 AM)
 but see,  i'm sick of talking about it Scott S.  ( 1: 11: 34 AM)
 I'm more than ready to begin Scott S.  ( 1: 11: 40 AM)  but i dont know how!
 Donnie ( 1: 11: 46 AM)  just shoot Donnie ( 1:
11: 49 AM)  shoot and dont look back Scott S.  ( 1: 11:
51 AM)  everyone always asks me " when's the revolution"  Scott S.  ( 1:
11: 58 AM)  and i say " soon"  Scott S.  (
1: 12: 03 AM)  but i dont know how to start!  Donnie ( 1:
13: 06 AM)  Well.  Donnie ( 1: 13:
22 AM)  There are certain. decisions you must make before anything begins Scott S.  ( 1: 13:
39 AM)  like what Donnie ( 1: 13: 48 AM)  Never leap blindly into the fire,
 Scott.  For it's flames are decievingly hot.  Scott S.  ( 1: 14:
07 AM)  but thats all i know how to do Scott S.  ( 1: 14: 12 AM)
 shoot and dont look back Scott S.  ( 1: 14: 20 AM)  just start running.
 Donnie ( 1: 14: 24 AM)  Then be prepared to be burned.  Donnie (
1: 14: 34 AM)  And take notice,  with the fire,  you only get once shot.
 Scott S.  ( 1: 14: 43 AM)  thats why i dont know how to start Scott S.
 ( 1: 14: 47 AM)  i know I'm gonna fry Scott S.  (
1: 14: 58 AM)  so i want to think of another way Donnie ( 1: 15:
13 AM)  Then perhaps you should not reply soon any longer Scott S.  ( 1: 15: 23 AM)
 huh?  Donnie ( 1: 15: 29 AM)  When's the revolution Donnie (
1: 15: 31 AM)  soon.  Scott S.  (
1: 15: 35 AM)  oh Scott S.  ( 1:
15: 39 AM)  but Donnie ( 1: 15: 44 AM)
 Say. not soon enough,  but it will come Scott S.  ( 1: 15:
51 AM)  i need help!  Donnie ( 1: 16: 12 AM)
 But far and wide you will have to look for help with such a dangerous subject!  Donnie ( 1: 16: 54 AM)  However.
I can advise you partially Donnie ( 1: 17: 12 AM)  First order of business:  NEVER trust the little old man with the wispy beard Scott S.
 ( 1: 17: 13 AM)  I would never ask you to do something you didnt want to do Scott S.  (
1: 17: 20 AM)  ha,  right Donnie ( 1:
17: 21 AM)  I never said I didn't want to.  Scott S.  ( 1:
17: 27 AM)  i know Scott S.  ( 1: 17:
30 AM)  just for the record Donnie ( 1: 17: 46 AM)  throw the record in the fire Scott S.
 ( 1: 17: 53 AM)  done Donnie ( 1:
18: 01 AM)  then you can proceed Scott S.  ( 1: 18:
07 AM)  ok Donnie ( 1: 18: 15 AM)  dont tangle yourself in the past,
 when the future is cumbersome enough Scott S.  ( 1: 18: 23 AM)  true Donnie (
1: 19: 09 AM)  You must decide. what type of revolution is in order Donnie ( 1:
19: 19 AM)  You must factor in many many things from the world as it is now.  Scott S.  ( 1:
19: 31 AM)  see thats the thing Donnie ( 1: 19: 47 AM)
 How can you proceed without supporters Scott S.  ( 1: 20: 19 AM)  I dont know Donnie (
1: 20: 33 AM)  we both knew it wouldnt be easy,  right?  Scott S.
 ( 1: 20: 40 AM)  right Donnie ( 1:
20: 49 AM)  im telling you man. Stalin knew what he was doing Scott S.  ( 1:
20: 55 AM)  yeah Donnie ( 1: 20: 56 AM)
 gain power slowly Donnie ( 1: 20: 57 AM)  and friends Donnie ( 1:
21: 02 AM)  the more the merrier Scott S.  ( 1: 21:
05 AM)  true Scott S.  ( 1: 21: 11 AM)
 but Donnie ( 1: 21: 17 AM)  serious; y.
we should start saying hello to every person that we know their name Scott S.  ( 1: 21: 25 AM)  ok Donnie (
1: 21: 29 AM)  if one person ends up supporting us,  it was not a lost cause Scott S.  (
1: 21: 34 AM)  right Scott S.  ( 1:
21: 43 AM)  but what is our cause Scott S.  ( 1: 21:
51 AM)  thats what i need to figure out Donnie ( 1: 22: 13 AM)  well.
do we need to exinguish the fire,  create a more organized one,  or just fuel it and let it burn out quickly.  Donnie ( 1: 22:
24 AM)  of of three paths lie before you Scott S.  ( 1: 22: 28 AM)
 ooo,  well said Scott S.  ( 1: 23: 03 AM)
 well lets think Scott S.  ( 1: 23: 17 AM)  i want you to be my number one in all of this Scott S.
 ( 1: 23: 23 AM)  we share power 50- 50 Donnie (
1: 23: 40 AM)  Hmmm. make it 49 -  51 in your favor Scott S.
 ( 1: 23: 44 AM)  ha Scott S.  (
1: 23: 46 AM)  alrighty Donnie ( 1: 24:
01 AM)  We'll do it like the Las Vegas business. 49 51 Scott S.  ( 1: 24:
05 AM)  ok,  so what would happen if there was no fire all of a sudden?  Donnie ( 1: 24:
16 AM)  a new one would surely spark Scott S.  ( 1: 24: 19 AM)
 right Scott S.  ( 1: 24: 22 AM)  so Donnie (
1: 24: 29 AM)  however.  Donnie ( 1:
25: 00 AM)  when there is no fire,  there is no order.  when there is no order,  there is certainly a new group of people that restore their own order,
 thus sparking up a new fire.  Scott S.  ( 1: 25: 08 AM)
 right Donnie ( 1: 25: 12 AM)  who's to say we couldn't be that group Scott S.  (
1: 25: 20 AM)  god point Scott S.  ( 1:
25: 43 AM)  i mean Scott S.  ( 1: 25:
44 AM)  good Donnie ( 1: 25: 48 AM)  understood Scott S.
 ( 1: 26: 05 AM)  but what if we just tame it Scott S.  (
1: 26: 12 AM)  nah Donnie ( 1: 26:
20 AM)  less risk,  less probability of success Scott S.  ( 1: 26:
25 AM)  yeah Scott S.  ( 1: 26: 27 AM)
 exactly Donnie ( 1: 26: 36 AM)  keep in mind that a fire is the quintessence of wild.  Scott S.
 ( 1: 26: 53 AM)  right.  Scott S.
 ( 1: 26: 57 AM)  i think.  Donnie (
1: 27: 01 AM)  there is no order the the flicker of its fingers grasping at the air!  Scott S.  (
1: 27: 11 AM)  true!  Scott S.  (
1: 27: 28 AM)  so we are left with- fuel it and let it burn out quickly Scott S.  (
1: 27: 32 AM)  pros and cons Donnie ( 1: 27:
42 AM)  less personal Donnie ( 1: 27: 46 AM)  we do our thing and wait Donnie (
1: 27: 51 AM)  perhaps adding this and that Scott S.  ( 1:
28: 00 AM)  and would probably involve.  force Donnie ( 1: 28:
00 AM)  they both end in the same place. a new order Donnie ( 1: 28: 20 AM)
 perhaps emotional force could be used Scott S.  ( 1: 28: 28 AM)  hmm,
 interesting Scott S.  ( 1: 28: 43 AM)  well,
 which one are you leaning to?  Scott S.  ( 1: 28: 55 AM)
 i think i might actually think about extinguishing it Donnie ( 1: 29: 08 AM)  sounds better Scott S.  (
1: 29: 16 AM)  yeah,  thats what im thinking Scott S.  (
1: 29: 26 AM)  we should take lessons from ghandi also Donnie ( 1: 29:
32 AM)  never read any of him Scott S.  ( 1: 29: 44 AM)
 well,  neither have i really Donnie ( 1: 29: 56 AM)  oh.
 Scott S.  ( 1: 29: 57 AM)  i just know he used all non-
viloent resistence Donnie ( 1: 29: 58 AM)  he sounds wise though Donnie ( 1:
30: 02 AM)  oh,  cool.  Scott S.  (
1: 30: 08 AM)  i think that stuff is REALLY powerful Scott S.  ( 1:
30: 14 AM)  more so than violence even Scott S.  ( 1: 30:
17 AM)  sometimes Donnie ( 1: 30: 27 AM)  Martin Luther King Jr.
 Scott S.  ( 1: 30: 38 AM)  right Donnie (
1: 30: 46 AM)  this will require some speechcraft,  man Scott S.  (
1: 30: 56 AM)  yeah it will Scott S.  ( 1:
31: 07 AM)  ok,  so its decided Scott S.  ( 1:
31: 14 AM)  we put the damn thing out!  Donnie ( 1: 31:
27 AM)  there is always the option of just letting it burn Donnie ( 1: 31: 31 AM)  its not running away Donnie (
1: 31: 35 AM)  dont think of it as that Scott S.  ( 1:
31: 41 AM)  ok Donnie ( 1: 31: 50 AM)
 but just leaving it,  and going to another side of the world. perhaps checking up to see its status Scott S.  ( 1: 31:
54 AM)  but if we just let it burn,  is that just doing nothing?  Donnie ( 1: 32:
00 AM)  well. yes Scott S.  ( 1: 32:
24 AM)  . so we run away?  Donnie ( 1: 32:
29 AM)  no no.  Donnie ( 1: 32: 43 AM)
 it's only running away if it is your duty to deal with it in the first place Scott S.  ( 1: 32: 54 AM)  isnt it though Donnie (
1: 32: 56 AM)  if you think that this was the reason you exist on this plane of existence. then i shall help Scott S.  (
1: 33: 15 AM)  i finally feel like i have a purpose Scott S.  ( 1:
33: 23 AM)  you need not follow me Donnie ( 1: 33: 31 AM)
 i shall offer what i can Scott S.  ( 1: 34: 05 AM)  well,
 this is what i need the most help with at the moment-  a begining objective Donnie ( 1: 34: 31 AM)  no Scott S.
 ( 1: 34: 36 AM)  thats how we can rally the people though Donnie ( 1:
34: 47 AM)  that would be jumping towards the fire only half blind Scott S.  ( 1: 34:
53 AM)  ok Donnie ( 1: 34: 59 AM)  dont act until you can deal with all possible consequences Scott S.
 ( 1: 35: 09 AM)  well how do we prepare?  Donnie (
1: 35: 40 AM)  brainstorm?  plan things out well,  you wont regret it Scott S.
 ( 1: 36: 15 AM)  right,  but.
 we need an objective of some sort,  if only for planing purposes Scott S.  ( 1: 36: 27 AM)
 how can i plan if i dont know what im doing?  Donnie ( 1: 36: 44 AM)  On paper Scott S.
 ( 1: 37: 00 AM)  yeah,  put what on paper though?
 Donnie ( 1: 37: 05 AM)  the pen is your sword!  the ink is your blood!
 Donnie ( 1: 37: 33 AM)  uh.  Donnie (
1: 38: 40 AM)  a doctrine Scott S.  ( 1:
38: 47 AM)  hmm Donnie ( 1: 38: 51 AM)
 WHY do you want this Donnie ( 1: 38: 57 AM)  why do you think it's your purpose Donnie ( 1:
39: 03 AM)  who do you want Donnie ( 1: 39: 07 AM)
 why should they join you Scott S.  ( 1: 39: 29 AM)  but see thats the thing,
 we need to figure out what " this"  is Donnie ( 1: 39: 51 AM)
 the extinguishment of the era,  and the dawn of a greater order Scott S.  ( 1: 40: 03 AM)
 well put Donnie ( 1: 41: 45 AM)  how did i keep you online this late?  Scott S.
 ( 1: 42: 11 AM)  the possibilty of answered questions Donnie ( 1:
42: 24 AM)  i am sorry if i have not fufilled that Scott S.  ( 1: 42:
30 AM)  no you have Donnie ( 1: 42: 35 AM)  ah,
 then no regrets Scott S.  ( 1: 42: 42 AM)  start gaining support Donnie (
1: 43: 00 AM)  and you Scott S.  ( 1:
43: 05 AM)  but people want to know " WHAT are you wanting to do?  Scott S.  (
1: 43: 14 AM)  thats what they always ask me Scott S.  ( 1:
43: 19 AM)  how do i respond to that?  Donnie ( 1: 43:
25 AM)  Hm.  Scott S.  ( 1: 43:
49 AM)  we begin with a display!  Donnie ( 1: 43: 55 AM)
 Ah.  Scott S.  ( 1: 44: 05 AM)
 a display to show all those that we are fed up Scott S.  ( 1: 44: 12 AM)  with the current system Donnie (
1: 44: 30 AM)  Better untangle the questions within yourself before you place them upon others Donnie ( 1: 44:
39 AM)  We have time Scott S.  ( 1: 44: 48 AM)
 time time Donnie ( 1: 45: 05 AM)  Remember. you only get one shot Scott S.
 ( 1: 45: 14 AM)  i dont think so Donnie ( 1:
45: 27 AM)  the fire can consume you Scott S.  ( 1: 45:
36 AM)  i could yes Donnie ( 1: 45: 37 AM)  depending on how much you touch it Donnie (
1: 45: 44 AM)  thats key.  Donnie ( 1:
45: 56 AM)  if you get too involved. you will only get one chance Scott S.  ( 1:
46: 04 AM)  yeah Donnie ( 1: 46: 06 AM)
 if you know when to quit and reflect on what to do,  then you are ok Scott S.  ( 1: 46: 15 AM)
 right Donnie ( 1: 46: 37 AM)  dwell upon this Scott S.  (
1: 46: 56 AM)  oh i will Donnie ( 1: 47:
08 AM)  go to sleep with the quote " And so we beat on,  boats against the current,  borne back ceaselessly into the past"  Scott S.
 ( 1: 47: 18 AM)  i cant sleep yet Scott S.  (
1: 47: 24 AM)  much too much work to be done Donnie ( 1: 47:
32 AM)  oh really Donnie ( 1: 47: 40 AM)  see?
 i distracted you waay too much Scott S.  ( 1: 47: 47 AM)  no Scott S.
 ( 1: 47: 49 AM)  this was good Donnie ( 1:
47: 52 AM)  ah ok Donnie ( 1: 47: 54 AM)
 no regrets Scott S.  ( 1: 47: 58 AM)  right Donnie (
1: 49: 17 AM)  however Donnie ( 1: 49:
24 AM)  i have a TON of work to do in the morning Scott S.  ( 1: 49: 30 AM)
 yeah Donnie ( 1: 49: 36 AM)  so i shall go enjoy my 4 hours of sleep Scott S.  (
1: 49: 43 AM)  alright Scott S.  ( 1:
49: 48 AM)  see ya tomorrow Donnie ( 1: 49: 58 AM)
 farewell Donnie ( 1: 50: 19 AM)  and so we beat on.  Session terminated at 1:
50: 19 AM 
